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		<title>California Syrah: from deep black fruit to king of red Rhône</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2026 00:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>California Syrah is still young in its evolution to a noble grape status. Learn about it in this blog.</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://frankober.net/syrah">California Syrah: from deep black fruit to king of red Rhône</a> appeared first on <a href="https://frankober.net">Frank&#039;s El Dorado wine blog</a>.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Syrah is perhaps the most well known of the Rhône varietals as it is well suited to produce really big wines that offer aging potential and varied flavor profiles for the high end consumer. If it wasn&#8217;t for my love of Grenache I would say Syrah is a most favored varietal for me because of its many profiles and adaptations both within California and around the world. I love the flavors and variety that Syrah offers.<br><br>California Syrah always held the promise to challenge Cabernet Sauvignon for a truly noble California grape with blockbuster wines, but its popularity has never been able to nudge out either Cabernet, Pinot Noir or Zinfandel in total acreage or volume. Acreage of Syrah in California is actually down in 2020 over the boom time of 2000-2010. Still total tons crushed are about 75,000 per year as published by the Wine Institute, and many counties across California have significant plantings of Syrah, from Santa Barbara County up through Mendocino County and many counties in between and beyond, including the interior and Sierra foothill regions. The <a href="https://www.nass.usda.gov/Statistics_by_State/California/Publications/Specialty_and_Other_Releases/Grapes/Acreage/Reports/2022GrapeAcreageReport.pdf">2022 USDA California Census report</a> for wine varietals grown shows Syrah solidly in the lead for Rhône varietals at just under 15,000 acres. That is more than 3 times what exists for Grenache, and puts Syrah almost in the league with the most popular varietals. <br><br>What makes Syrah special? Well the variety you will find in a number of different styles. Syrah is often a big and complex wine, but it doesn&#8217;t have to be. I know of a Syrah running at 12% alcohol and with no barrel aging, it is the true essence of the fruit. It can be medium bodied too, if aged with very neutral oak for not too long. Of course some Syrah is allowed to get really ripe and offers big flavor profiles with a significant amount of oak aging followed with plenty of bottle aging, and yes high alcohol content too. So you can choose between a large swath of flavors and styles in this varietal. Syrah is of course often blended with the other 2 classic Rhone red grapes Grenache and Mourvèdre to produce GSM, although most GSM&#8217;s are typically Grenache or Mourvèdre heavy, but not always. Syrah dominant wines are popular and often the flagship of some of the most revered wineries in California. As far as blending, it is worth mentioning that across much of France, some Viognier (maybe ~5%) is often co-fermented with the Syrah to bring out some more special florals and texture to the wine. I love Syrah-Viognier blends. And you should ask your Syrah wine maker if they do it this way. I know for a fact <a href="https://cedarvillevineyard.com">Cedarville Vineyard</a> do, as I watched it get crushed in 2023 when I worked at Cedarville. </p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">What area of the state produces the most expensive Syrah? Well it is not Napa, it is a cult winery sourcing from the Santa Barbara and Santa Rita Hills area named, <a href="https://www.sinequanon.com/vineyards/">Sine Qua Non</a>. This winery produces bottles in the $500 range from several sources. But you don&#8217;t have spend $500 to have excellent Syrah from California, a whole eclectic range of product exists from $15-100 a bottle, but typically amazing Syrah starts around $30 retail if you want special California Estate grown and bottled Syrah. I notice that Paso Robles, Santa Rita, and Santa Barbara Syrah&#8217;s that are highly rated often stretch from $50-100 a bottle, in the north state the prices are less steep, especially in the Sierra foothills, Mendocino or Sonoma.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"> If you are new to the endevour of a particular high end Syrah region such as Paso Robles, which is big on high end vineyards and estates now, you might want to search out a few from the list of members at the <a href="https://rhonerangers.org/members/wineries">Rhone Rangers</a> and give that method a try. Rhone Ranger members tend to be the pick of the litter.  The ratings and info at <a href="https://www.winemag.com/2019/04/23/everything-you-need-to-know-about-syrah-shiraz/">Wine Enthusiast</a> are reliable.  Some of the wineries in this area that have highly prized Syrah&#8217;s are <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bookerwines.com/" target="_blank">Booker</a>, <a href="https://sextantwines.com/">Sextant</a> and <a href="http://thestatewines.com/">TH Estate</a>. But that is just a start,  if you are endeavoring into the high end Syrah of Paso Robles you will need to be selective and careful, the list of top end wineries is deep. And of course, Syrah stretches much further south from there as well.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Wait, what about the northern half of the State, where I live? Well these wines can be stunning as well. Let&#8217;s take a look at a few wineries to consider. Amador and El Dorado Counties can be good sources for excellent Syrah. Bill Easton and <a href="https://www.terrerougewines.com/">Terre Rouge</a> is a highly awarded Syrah specialist, and their Ascent Syrah was awarded 100 points by Wine Enthusiast, at least in one year, and typically it is 95+ wine.  Many renditions exist at Terre Rouge, and his estate DTR Syrah is less expensive and still a blockbuster in my mind. There are a good number of well crafted Syrahs across this region, and one of the best vineyards I enjoy is the <a href="https://goldbudfarms.com/pages/viticulture">Fenaughty</a> vineyard which produces rich, velvety smooth, smoke and violet tinged Syrah especially when you age it for 5-10 years. The Fenaughty vineyard has done the best in my cellar over the last 20 years. You can do a search on Google for &#8216;Fenaughty Syrah&#8217; and see who produced with it, however for consistency I buy this wine from <a href="https://hollyshill.com/">Holly&#8217;s Hill</a> in the Pleasant Valley AVA of El Dorado (Holly&#8217;s Hill can ship you this wine). In the San Francisco area, you might try <a href="https://www.donkeyandgoat.com/">Donkey and Goat</a>, and there are more that source this fruit. I know this wine sells out pretty quickly at Holly&#8217;s Hill so if it is available, you better move on it. The Syrah vines at Fenaughty were grafted way back in the 1980&#8217;s so this may be some old vine expression that you will enjoy, if you enjoy big and bold wine. <br><br>One winery in Sonoma that does complex and big Syrah very well is<a href="https://argotwines.com/"> Argot Wines</a>. Justin Harmon started with Syrah and he&#8217;s still doing it almost 20 years later, and his Sonoma Mountain fruit is something special. This wine is very big, I would wait a bit on opening the bottles and let them integrate for a few years. But they are very complex from blueberry to deep purple flowers and cocoa. If you want an incredible expression of Sonoma County Syrah, this would be my recommendation. You can read up on Justin Harmon&#8217;s love of Sonoma Mountain Syrah in this <a href="https://www.winespectator.com/articles/sonoma-mountain-best-secret-syrah-argot-steiner-vineyard">post</a> by Wine Spectator.<br><br>What Grenache is to red fruit roll ups and intense herbal notes, Syrah is to complexity, depth, darker fruit, cherry, violets/flowers, cocoa, tobacco, leather, spices and more. If you are into big wines, maybe from Bordeaux, then you should give Syrah a try as well. California Syrah can be especially complex and delicious. I drink it often, both locally and from places like Argot Wines.</p>



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<p>The post <a href="https://frankober.net/syrah">California Syrah: from deep black fruit to king of red Rhône</a> appeared first on <a href="https://frankober.net">Frank&#039;s El Dorado wine blog</a>.</p>
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		<title>Dolcetto Rosé and a whole lot of other varieties&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2026 02:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>El Dorado County has a lot of varieties that grow in these rugged hills. Many accounts from official sources say the County has over 70 varieties in production. The winemakers have not sold out to Bordeaux variety heaviness and to be honest that&#8217;s truly one of the top tier reasons to drink El Dorado or [&#8230;]</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">El Dorado County has a lot of varieties that grow in these rugged hills. Many accounts from official sources say the County has over 70 varieties in production. The winemakers have not sold out to Bordeaux variety heaviness and to be honest that&#8217;s truly one of the top tier reasons to drink El Dorado or Sierra Foothills wine in general. This County is authentic, however authentic that farmer wants to make it in fact. Rhône varieties, Zinfandel, some other French and Italian varieties dominate but never one particular grape. For any particular winery either. Zinfandel and Rhone styles are still the core grape varieties to be found. However, this blog is about Rosé.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When it comes to Rosé wine the variety variation can be a real treat. Because almost no Rosé wine is influenced with oak. They are usually stainless steel or concrete fermented. Often to the peak of dry or just before it reaches absolute peak dryness and then bottled quickly and sold. Some Rosé&#8217;s can even be aged but don&#8217;t age them too long. It usually doesn&#8217;t work out.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><br>Here in El Dorado County you can find great Rosé from almost all the wineries that exist. They usually do at least one white and one Rosé. If you want to go really deep on Rosé, you need to focus on France, France exports a lot of Rosé, it was probably invented in Provence. The king region for Rosé today is <a href="https://www.vinsdeprovence.com/en/le-rose/le-b-a-ba-du-rose">Provence</a>. This region is in the very south east of France and here you can find walls and walls of high acid, fruit centric, and complex Rosé. They use the similar techniques and it really comes down to the grape. The techniques often use no oak, so you will get the grape&#8217;s expression more fully. The wine is aged in concrete, or here in the USA in stainless steel with temperature control. Rarely is there residual sugar, but sometimes just a tad. A slight amount of sugar never hurts really, but to be honest most of these wines on the hydrometer will be 0 or -1 (perfectly dry). <br><br>The Rosé&#8217;s I like from around here are using a number of different varieties.<br><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolcetto">Dolcetto</a> (thanks <a href="https://www.lavacap.com/shop/white-wines/">Lava Cap</a>)<br>Zinfandel (yes better than the classic White Zinfandel which is often too sugary)<br>Syrah<br>Barbera <br>Grenache<br>Pinot Noir<br></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><br>Grenache is a great varietal for Rosé, and most of Provence is using Grenache, except Bandol where Mourvèdre is always 50% of the blend there, so the Rose&#8217; in Bandol will be Mourvèdre centric. And many say the Rose&#8217;s from Bandol are more complex and really special. The AOC rule in Bandol is Mourvèdre must be 50% of any rouge wine, and at least 20% of any Rosé. And most wines are blended by tradition. We are heading there in 2027 to find out more about the AOC&#8217;s of Provence.<br><br>Here are some grape varieties used traditionally for Rosé across Europe that you won&#8217;t find a Rosé from in El Dorado County or across the Sierra Foothills, but if you find one send me a note here on my <a href="https://frankober.net/contact-frank">website</a>.<br><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mourv%C3%A8dre">Mourvèdre</a> (think <a href="https://www.bandoltourisme.fr/en/bandol/the-destination/bandol-wines/">Bandol</a>)<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrein">Lagrein</a><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabernet_Franc">Cabernet Franc<br></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aglianico">Aglianico</a><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebbiolo">Nebbiolo </a><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangiovese">Sangiovese</a><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamay">Gamay Noir</a><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valdigui%C3%A9">Valdiguié</a><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malbec">Côt (Malbec)</a><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grolleau_(grape)">Grolleau</a><br><br>I suggest you try some nice dry (yes even complex) Rosé from the south of France as a starter anyway, or go high end and then go for a Tavel France Rosé. Much of it does come from the South of France but certainly all of France is notable. The Rhone Valley is famous for it as well and outside of Provence, Tavel is often on the finest wine lists (across France for sure). But if you want to look for something specific at your favorite wine store read this WE look into <a href="https://www.wineenthusiast.com/culture/wine/ultimate-french-rose-wine-guide/">French Rosé</a>. This excellent post goes far beyond just Provence or the southern Rhône. You have to remember my orientation and biases, they are towards Rhône varieties and southern France and Alsace. Other places that have some heritage and specialty in higher end Rosé, are <br><br>Spain<br>Italy<br>Austria<br>South Africa<br>Greece <br>Sicily<br><br>To name a few, but for many of these places you will have to go there to really immerse yourself.<br><br>Much of the Rosé I find in El Dorado County is just that. It barely exists.</p>



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		<title>Learning the wine spectrum</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2025 18:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>One of the funnest parts of learning wine is learning the spectrum of your favorite variety. How different processes related to wine making can make a Zinfandel highly acidic and fruit forward, versus a bomb tannic Zinfandel that should be called dark matter on an oak shadowed lane.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">One of the funnest parts of learning wine is learning the spectrum of your favorite variety. How different processes related to wine making can make a Zinfandel more acidic and fruit forward, versus a bomb tannic Zinfandel that should be called dark matter on an oak shadowed lane. Some wines are so ripe, strong and full of oak notes, they can be harder to stomach as well. Or it can be light and fruitful on the other end of the spectrum. Zinfandel can be lighter and more fruitful like an Italian Barbera from Asti. This is an example of the spectrum, in a nutshell.<br><br>The best scores in wine come from those tertiary bombs that really extract the most fruit aromas, and tannic contents from the wine. On top of that, you get tertiary flavors. Tertiary flavors develop in the aging process in the bottle. Things like smoke, tar, honeycomb, and bread pudding notes, or perhaps forest floor. The wine even can change from sip to sip, this is the art of the highly developed wine, that gets those high awards, and point scores deep into the 90&#8217;s.<br><br>However the best thing if you like a particular variety, and my favorites are Syrah, Mourvedre, and Grenache in no particular order, is to try their spectrum. Try lots of different ones. Meaning a light version of the variety and a rich, opulent version of that variety. That last kind could be expensive to really see what&#8217;s possible. These highly processed wines are what drives up prices.<br><br>For me the grape with the widest and most complex spectrum, with lots of choices in the Sierra Nevada, is <a href="https://frankober.net/zinfandel-won-gold-country" data-type="post" data-id="74">Zinfandel</a>. I like my Zinfandel spicy and complex with berry magic delivering clove, mediterranean spices, pomegranate with a whole bunch of sweet Italian cherries. Almost all red wines have some notes of cherry. Zinfandel can be very complex and still be a bit rich in the finish, but with almost no oak to infuse it, it can be really something unique. Also a bit less tannic is often better for the stomach as well. It is hard to find this, but I have had several expressions of this kind of amazing Zinfandel and loved every minute of it. The El Dorado AVA often has this higher mountain wine that is a bit lighter and full of lots of grape forward notes and a bit lighter in style.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Another varietal that has a very interesting and diverse spectrum is Merlot. Merlot is really something special, I like it more that Cabernet Sauvignon. If you forced me to choose, I choose Merlot over Cabernet, because Merlot can be really amazing with the its skin tannin, and it can have these complex minty or bay leaf flavors that exist that really shine on the palate, especially with a nice meal.<br><br>If you love large, deep, rich and ripe wines and have not had the lighter varietals of that grape, you can try to go to a wine shop and ask for wines that are lighter versions of Syrah (think Crozes-Hermitage) and others come from other parts of France as well (think further north). As far as Merlot , all over Bordeaux you can find Merlot of all capacities across the full spectrum. Pinot Noir is also this kind of grape, it is often oppressed by heavy oak but a lot of vintners realize Pinot is so special as it is, so I find plenty of Pinot Noir that is lightly touched and very Provincial.<br><br>In the foothills the easiest grapes are the ones I already mentioned. Zinfandel, Syrah (although most Syrahs are opulent and rich), and Grenache. Any grape variety has a spectrum of lighter to richer and fuller, these are just example varieties that might be more accessible.<br><br>So my 4 varieties for spectrum deep diving are:<br><br><a href="https://frankober.net/zinfandel-won-gold-country" data-type="post" data-id="74">Zinfandel</a><br>Merlot <br><a href="https://frankober.net/barbera-is-not-barolo" data-type="post" data-id="97">Barbera</a><br><a href="https://frankober.net/syrah" data-type="post" data-id="112">Syrah</a> <br><br>You might wonder why <a href="https://frankober.net/grenache" data-type="post" data-id="1">Grenache</a> is not on this list, it could be, but very heavy Grenache is not my favorite, so I pass on Grenache here with this theme. California Grenache really does poorly with too much oak. If I wanted to see lots of oak attached to a variety it would be my list above. I give an honorable mention to Pinot Noir since it is so accessible to people, especially here on the US West Coast.<br><br>Go out there and learn the spectrum on your favorite variety, since any grape, for example Sangiovese or Tempranillo, and so on, have these characteristics, where the spectrum exists, of elegant to rich. Wine is a human product, it can get highly manipulated, and grape forward wines can still be very complex. The easiest grape to show off a spectrum may be Barbera. In California, these tend to be very opulent and powerful wines, and in Barbera d&#8217;Asti they are elegant, cherry filled and so straight forwardly delicious. That is the easiest comparison of how the spectrum works. And if you live in New York City, the easiest to compare, since a store will probably stock both types.<br><br>The white varieties that have an amazing spectrum are Marsanne and Roussanne. The artists of the Northern Rhone do amazing work with <a href="https://frankober.net/roussanne-found-where-is-marsanne" data-type="post" data-id="248">Marsanne</a> and Roussanne, so this will require a trip to south eastern France of course. Because the heavily opulent whites are not too prevalent or easy to find, especially in the USA. You will need to spend like $80 a or more for the really amazing rich and opulent white wines that are the best expression of what the Rhone valley whites can deliver. These whites are amazing!<br><br>Learn it, and love it, with your favorite variety. Go Provincial, then go New World. Or for a US resident or wine lover this order will be reversed. As it was for me.<br><br>Some further reading on wine flavor spectrums can be found in this article at <a href="https://winefolly.com/tips/4-wine-styles-to-rule-them-all-which-one-is-you/">Wine Folly</a>.</p>



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<p>The post <a href="https://frankober.net/learning-the-spectrum">Learning the wine spectrum</a> appeared first on <a href="https://frankober.net">Frank&#039;s El Dorado wine blog</a>.</p>
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		<title>Mourv&#232;dre &#8211; diversify with abundant sun, and less oak</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2025 21:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Mourvedre is a classic grape for the Sierra Foothills because it loves heat and has a long growing season. Learn about who does Mourvedre best in the Sierra Foothills.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Mourvèdre reached a brief cult status in the last 20 years especially among the elite wines produced in the Paso Robles region, because it was artfully blended into some of the highly sought after <a href="https://www.latimes.com/food/la-xpm-2011-feb-10-la-fo-paso-mourvedre-20110310-story.html">cuvèe&#8217;s</a> of the area. Up north (in California) it is also a strong diversifying factor to many of the great GSMs that exist in both the coastal and interior regions. Mourvèdre is a very powerful and expressive grape variety. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mourv%C3%A8dre">Mourvèdre</a> can hang tough with the sometimes brutally hot summers of Northern California. Its thick skin helping it cope. So it does especially well in the hotter climates of the El Dorado AVA.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Oregon&#8217;s Willamette Valley is not ready for Mourvèdre just yet. Give climate warming some more time. However, it can be found in the Rogue River regions of Southern Oregon which are plenty hot enough and also provide the soil attributes it loves.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Mourvèdre goes from spicy, to sultry, to earthy, and deeply so, but can also be subtle, lively and herbaceous. It is hard to pin point Mourvedre, in all of its directions. It has surprised me, both for its acid and its tannin. But maybe now as Mourvedre gets ever more serious and pricey, we are catering again to the Cabernet drinker that loves tannin rich wine. So the winemakers respond, and the varietal has moved far beyond obscurity and lower price points, to a more serious varietal. Exotic spices, and herbaceous tones are the distinct characteristics you should always find in a good Mourvèdre. Or Monastrell, Mataro, wait what is it? <a href="https://www.jancisrobinson.com/learn/grape-varieties/red/mourvedre">Mourvèdre</a> has lots of synonyms and a complex history.  </p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In the under-rated geographic zone, and for the budget minded, maybe it is time to find out about Monastrell. From a region than rarely overcharges for wine, Spain. Spain offers excellent export bottles of this varietal, which in Spain is called Monastrell. <a href="https://www.wine-searcher.com/regions-jumilla">Jumilla</a>, is a wine region that is expressly committed to producing the Monastrell grape, and some very elegant ones often mixed with Syrah and Cabernet Sauvignon. It is worth searching out some wines from Jumilla Spain, I have yet to be disappointed, especially in the $15-25 price point that is often &#8220;exported&#8221;.  It&#8217;s a great way to budget start this journey.<br><br> However you discover Mourvedre, and whatever price point, the spectrum&#8217;s are vast. Be sure to open up the wine for a while, and it will change. Mourvèdre is often one of the wines most receptive to decanting, and of course to serving with a rich spice filled meal.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">So where do you go for some varietal focused Mourvèdre in California? Well you can hit up <a href="https://tablascreek.com">Tablas Creek</a> which has a plethera (at least 5) renditions of this grape in their offerings. Tablas Creek is the grandfather of Rhone varietals within California. A truly exceptional winery, with a lab, an amazing staff and the support of the <a href="https://tablascreek.com/story/history">Perrin</a> family that birthed modern Rhone varietals within the state of California.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><br>Oak must be complimentary to the complexity of this varietal. How often is oak not overdone? Not often enough, and when you jump into the Mourvèdre pool this becomes especially interesting. An example of Mourvèdre from fruit to savory notes is <a href="https://www.wineenthusiast.com/buying-guide/edio-2022-delfino-farms-mourvedre-sierra-foothills/">Edio Vineyards</a> which consistently ranks very high with this varietal. We are talking winemakers that pick their fruit at peak flavor. All critical factors in creating a wine that stands on its fruit and terroir pillars first and then layers in savory notes. Edio sources its grapes from the grandfather of Northern California, namely grapes that were planted and managed by <a href="https://www.mtdemocrat.com/obituaries/ron-mansfield/article_2e74cd66-d658-11ee-95a6-0b85c6dccacc.html">Ron Mansfield</a>. <br><br><br><a href="https://hollyshill.com/">Holly&#8217;s Hill</a> is somewhat rare in that its number one varietal in terms of total acreage planted is, you guessed it, Mourvèdre. That is right alongside the Tablas Creek playbook. However that is still rare. This is a winery that sourced from the Tablas Creek nursery over 20 years ago. Carrie and Josh Bendick the winemakers continue to experiment deeply with this varietal. If you stay committed to them through the wine club you will be able to taste a spectrum of Mourvèdre that is hard to match across California.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">California Mourvèdre is typically earthy in its flavor tones, with hopefully a &#8220;slight&#8221; amount of toasted oak. Savory notes of mushroom, truffle-like notes, or some unique tones out of the oak blending in with the grape. You can try a rich, yet young feeling Mourvedre when you try Holly&#8217;s Hill Poco Loco variant. Is there a wee bit of residual sugar in that varietal? The focus with Poco Loco is a &#8220;drink it now&#8221; varietal that is both juicier and yet opulent. Overall, Mourvèdre is quite expansive in what it can deliver, and I have given you a range of wineries here to try to be purposeful on what this variety can deliver. Mourvèdre is hard to pin down in this AVA. It gets even more crazy on a global scale.<br><br>Speaking of young Mourvèdre, the first-ever Mourvèdre release from Jonathan Lachs at <a href="https://www.cedarvillevineyard.com/WINE-SHOP/Current-Releases-plus-New-Releases-at-Introductory-Prices">Cedarville</a> is a remarkable study in restraint and polish. Eschewing the rustic intensity often associated with the grape, this wine is centered on pure, refreshing fruit. With high quality integrated oak, the structure supports a beautifully complex, savory-earth core that drinks like a classic, fruit-spectrum French benchmark. This is a triumphant niche addition to the Cedarville repertoire that reflects years of thought and dedicated effort.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If you spend time looking for wine, you&#8217;ll appreciate spending more time looking for unique Mourvèdre&#8217;s, once you make friends with it. It is more complex and diverse than say (some leaner) Grenache and should last longer in your cellar as well. It is an under appreciated grape in the world of wine today. Mourvèdre loves lots of sun and heat so its future is bright. Mourvèdre sometimes ripens slowly if the harvest time gets too cool, delivering some of the spectrum I laid out for you in this blog. <br>Cheers!</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://frankober.net/mourvedre">Mourv&egrave;dre &#8211; diversify with abundant sun, and less oak</a> appeared first on <a href="https://frankober.net">Frank&#039;s El Dorado wine blog</a>.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2025 12:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Viognier is  still in its youth for popularity within the United States, as so much attention goes to just a few varietals. Viognier is often referred to as the other Chardonnay, but in my experience the complexity and minerality of a good California mountain (Sierra Nevada) or Central Coast Viognier is absolutely delightful. Viognier is distinctively different from Chardonnay, especially as you dive deeper into the better selections. It is perhaps my favorite white varietal, and certainly my favorite of the Rhone whites. </p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If you are a starter at this, I have found good Viognier can be had from Australia&#8217;s mass production wineries that will show the typical minerality, robust acidic profile but never too acidic, and these wines are not highly oaked. They are an easy step into the Viognier world. Viognier&#8217;s from Australia are an excellent value. Both Australia and New Zealand produces Viognier, as does South Africa, France, Croatia, Greece and South America. In North America its plantings are as diverse as Virginia, Texas, British Columbia and the Baja Peninsula. So its diversity in regions is phenomenal. </p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">What can you expect from Viognier?<br>For me, the bouquet usually includes:</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Stone fruits (typically apricot) honeysuckle, roses, flowers, light pineapple or mango, light citrus, tangerine. And oh yes, not really any lemon like a lot of other whites.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Other expert notes, include almond extract, toasted bread, fig, anise. Viognier can be flowery, yet still be a standup dinner wine. That&#8217;s the amazing part about this varietal, a nuanced bouquet, but also highly structured, somewhat big and plenty dry (because the vintner wants it that way).</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The color usually looks like this, a medium or light-medium gold from punch downs and pour overs the wine will extract more stone fruit flavors typically and the complexity may improve.</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><br>A key aspect I have found with Viognier is that the wine is quite susceptible to oak and the tangential flavors a barrel will bring. Hopefully you find a lightly oaked Viognier as this is important in my experience. This is one of the reasons I recommend a quality Australian or more low cost Viognier that is highly rated, these will not be over oaked, have the proper acid and bouquet notes,  and provide a gentle introduction.  Some mass produced Viogniers to get started with that are available across the USA,   are from <a href="https://clinecellars.com/" data-type="URL" data-id="https://clinecellars.com/">Cline</a>, <a href="https://www.mcmanisfamilyvineyards.com/varietal/viognier/" data-type="URL" data-id="https://www.mcmanisfamilyvineyards.com/varietal/viognier/">McManis</a>, and <a href="https://www.yalumba.com/shop/wines/y-series-viognier" data-type="URL" data-id="https://www.yalumba.com/shop/wines/y-series-viognier">Yalumba</a> (Australia&#8217;s largest producer). Any of those three will get you started properly. </p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A classic example of the grape if you are willing to spend a bit more, is how <a href="https://tablascreek.com/shop" data-type="URL" data-id="https://tablascreek.com/shop">Tablas Creek</a> makes their Viognier.  It is classic, clean,  yet very complex, not a lot of oak at all. Tablas Creek is essentially direct to consumer so you will have to use their website, linked above. </p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In the mountains of the Sierra Nevada, where I live, our AVA&#8217;s produce some amazing Viognier&#8217;s, as the terroir is well suited to the varietal. If you thinking about a heartier Viognier, probably more robust than coastal Viognier, than you have found the appellations that will deliver this experience. The Viognier&#8217;s of the Sierra Nevada are for wine geeks, highly sought after. <br><br>Some of the best producers that I have tasted (come back to for Viognier) in the Sierra Foothills are in no particular order:<br><br><a href="https://www.element79vineyards.com/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.element79vineyards.com/">Element 79 Vineyards</a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://www.casquewines.com/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.casquewines.com/">Casque Wines</a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://www.cedarvillevineyard.com/" data-type="URL" data-id="https://www.cedarvillevineyard.com/">Cedarville Vineyards</a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://mirafloreswinery.com/" data-type="URL" data-id="https://mirafloreswinery.com/">Miraflores Winery</a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="http://www.hollyshill.com/" data-type="URL" data-id="http://www.hollyshill.com/">Holly&#8217;s Hill Vineyards and Winery</a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://www.lavacap.com/" data-type="URL" data-id="https://www.lavacap.com/">Lava Cap Winery</a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In fact, <a href="https://www.winemag.com/2018/04/09/california-viognier/" data-type="URL" data-id="https://www.winemag.com/2018/04/09/california-viognier/">Wine Enthusiast</a> rates the Lava Cap and Cedarville Vineyard Viognier&#8217;s as Cellar Selections and both of these producers know Viognier extremely well. The Viognier at Lava Cap is done in a very Burgundian way.<br><br>If you have never had Viognier and you prefer a dry white wine with hints of apricot, stone fruits, flowers, (lighter) citrus and excellent minerality and for some a creamy mouth feel thanks to Malolactic fermentation. It&#8217;s time to get a bottle of Viognier, and chill out on a summer&#8217;s night! I drink a lot more Viognier than I do Chardonnay or anything Sauvignon Blanc or related. But like anything when done right Chardonnay and Sauvignon Blanc can be fantastic too. As will Riesling or Gewurztraminer. <br><br>The Sierra Foothills however is Viognier Country, just ask one of our local winemakers. Sometimes they tell you. <br><br>&#8220;My Viognier does better than all my other varieties&#8221; and that should stand for a lot, since the fruit is the start of a great wine.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2024 13:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I recently went to WSET 2 training in Napa Valley, and one smart question from a student was, <br>&#8220;Does wine improve with age?&#8221;<br><br>The instructor (a level 4 Master in Wine), quickly gave the answer. &#8220;In most cases your wines will not improve with age.&#8221;<br><br> I have noticed the same result. The vast majority of wine you will buy is best the day you bought it, or within 2 years of purchase. I know from 25 years of aging experience. <br><br>So what grape varieties, or styles of wine should you consider aging? <br><br>Well for most Rhone varietals the answer is quite simply, Syrah based Rhone-styled wine will be age worthy in <strong>some</strong> instances. <br><br><strong>What constitutes age worthy wine? </strong><br>The answer is wine that is high in tannins, and also high in acids. It is acids, tannins and sugar components that allow wine to age and improve with cellaring. So most wine is not at this level and therefore does not really need to age very much. Grenache for example is not considered a high tannin variety&#8230; and white wine doesn&#8217;t even have tannins of considerable quantity. Grenache is thin skinned and does not add a lot of tannins. Syrah is very thick skinned, has small berries and therefore the ratio of skin to pulp is high with Syrah. What comes from the skins of the grape?<br>Color, flavor, and <strong>tannin</strong>. <br><br>Most wine is sold as soon as it is ready, even early a bit, since the wine maker already went through bottle maturation, and wants to sell the wine to make a living. Winemakers also understand that consumers do like fruitiness in a wine, and the fruits are most pronounced when a wine is youngest. <br><br>If the wine is noticeably high in the (above) components, I just mentioned you can consider letting it sit. The dominant one is tannins, which can actually be offensive if they are too strong in a young deeply pronounced wine. More bottle aging will mellow such wine, and over time tertiary notes develop alongside the primary fruit components of the wine that allow for a complex and enjoyable experience. I just opened a bottle of Syrah-dominant southern French wine from Saint-Chinion that was very deep ruby colored, actually some garnet color was developing and the wine benefited from the aging (it was 7 years old). If I buy big Syrah&#8217;s (and they are almost always big), just look at the alcohol content. When was the last time you saw a 12-13% red Syrah? <br><br><strong>What Rhone-styled wines should you consider aging? </strong><br>Syrah is a potent variety, it has lots of flavors it can enhance from various peppery notes, blackberry, black plum, licorice, smoke, chocolate, and Moroccan style spices (cumin, clove). Letting the flavanoids integrate for maybe 3, 5, or even 10 more years can produce a more integrated, mellow and enjoyable wine. For my birthday, I had a 20 year old Cedarville Syrah that was simply delicious. The wine tasted so integrated and mellow. A true delight. All of the Cedarville Syrah&#8217;s will develop nicely with age.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Getting even more specific than just Syrah doing well in the wine cellar, is to look specifically at high tannin, ripe Syrah from Southern Rhone. The most popular region is Chateauneuf-du-Pape (CdP). These wines are almost always made in a &#8220;big wine&#8221; style, because they command high prices. And with high prices come age worthy wines. If you buy an expensive CdP wine, you should look into how long you should save this wine for. Many of these wines will drink best in the 7-15 year range, and not 2-4 years when you might buy them. So you may need to save them for easily 5 more years, from when you bought them. Don&#8217;t just consider CdP, any of the AOC&#8217;s in the Rhone Valley could deliver a blockbuster Syrah so look into Cornas, Vacqueryas, St. Joseph, Crozes-Hermitage and so on.<br><br>Most Rhone styled wines, especially Grenache varietals, or Mourvedre varietals, you should drink these close to when you bought them. Within the first few years. They simply will not improve much with age. Not all Mourvedre varietals will have enough tannins or acids to age well. Certainly not California style Grenache, which is very fruit forward. <br><br><strong>Remember most wine does not improve with age.</strong> That&#8217;s the overriding takeaway, and why the Wine Master answered the question this way. <br><br>So consider aging your expensive Syrah&#8217;s, and CdP&#8217;s and see where that takes you. I have a number of CdP&#8217;s and won&#8217;t open them until about years 4 to 8 comes to be. It has been a formula that has worked for me. <br><br>Also age wine in a wine cellar (refrigerator). Wine needs to be kept cool (55 degrees Fahrenheit) , away from light, and on its side at all times. <br><br>Here is the latest addition to my cellar.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="576" height="1024" src="https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/CdP-Cigale.jpg?resize=576%2C1024&#038;ssl=1" alt="" class="wp-image-514" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/CdP-Cigale-1406x2500.jpg?resize=576%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 576w, https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/CdP-Cigale-1406x2500.jpg?resize=169%2C300&amp;ssl=1 169w, https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/CdP-Cigale-1406x2500.jpg?resize=768%2C1366&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/CdP-Cigale-1406x2500.jpg?resize=864%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 864w, https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/CdP-Cigale-1406x2500.jpg?resize=1152%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 1152w, https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/CdP-Cigale-1406x2500.jpg?resize=1406%2C2500&amp;ssl=1 1406w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 576px) 100vw, 576px" /><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">See you in maybe in a few years. I opened this in late 2025 and it was just about perfect with a few years of peak flavor left. Sure they will tell you it goes 10-15 years, and it might, but the fruit components will be very background by then.</figcaption></figure>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2023 15:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I had the pleasure of attending the<a href="https://www.vins-rhone.com/en"> Rhone Valley Vineyards</a> event on June 15, 2023 in San Francisco&#8217;s Westin St. Francis Hotel. Over 30 wineries from Rhone came to San Francisco from Southern France, and provided their wines for tasting and education, and of course export into the USA. Rhone is clearly under represented in the USA compared to say Bordeaux and the French wine industry is well aware of this. The Rhone Valley producers produce an amazing amount of wine, 330 million bottles in 2022 and growing. I got to meet some <a href="https://sinnae.fr/">new wineries</a> of Rhone at this event, as Rhone vineyards (and wine making) continues to grow. <br><br>Here are some facts to understand the vastness of the Rhone Valley. <br>> Rhone Valley is about 9% of all French wine produced<br>> Cotes du Rhone is about 46% of  the total production<br>> <a href="https://blog.chwine.com/understanding-aoc-cotes-du-rhone/">Rhone&#8217;s classification system</a> is augmented by distinct Cotes du Rhone Villages that have geographic distinction and focus on a community and terroir.<br>> About 76% of the production is red wines. Yes White and Rose is INCREASING! <br>> Blending is far more prevalent in the Rhone than say in the USA, generally speaking, as the USA is a wine culture of identification by varietal. It is how we &#8220;identify&#8221; the wine, and in France it is by &#8220;place&#8221;. <br><br>If you want to deep dive into the appellations of Rhone I think this is the best <a href="https://www.vins-rhone.com/en/vineyard/appellations">link</a>, to go beyond what I state above regarding &#8220;communes&#8221; of the Rhone.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">So what are some other takeaways from the event? I found all the wines delicious and  highly varied. There were some real power wines here, as well as white wines with finesse and high acids, and even some sparkling (<a href="https://www.foodandwine.com/wine/cremant-guide">Cremant</a>).  It was very diverse set of winemakers. As far as similarities. It is what you probably would expect from a region that is quite controlled in what it can produce, appellation to appellation. Syrah and Grenache in no particular order were dominant. In fact, GSM blends were all over the room, of course Grenache dominant. Most of the wineries were from the Southern Rhone, as this area in general is much larger in hectares of size than the smaller northern Rhone valley. Therefore,  Grenache was more  highly represented than Syrah. There was plenty of both, and just enough whites, and rose to keep it interesting. <br><br>Here are 5 of the wineries that really impressed us from the tastings. This is not  a fair representation of course, because nobody can drink 100+ wines, from about 40 wineries,  and come out with any type of rankings or ratings.  There was lots of really great wines here, and yes so many of the GSMs were simply too good.<br><br>+ <a href="https://www.cave-cairanne.fr/en/home/">Cave de Cairanne</a> <br><br>+ <a href="http://www.cellierdeschartreux.fr/en/accueil">Cellier Des Chartreux</a><br><br>+ <a href="https://www.vignobles-alain-jaume.com/">Alain Jaume</a><br><br>+ <a href="https://domainedesromarins.wpcomstaging.com/">Domaine Des Romarins</a><br><br>+ <a href="https://famillegassier.fr/">Famille Gassier</a><br><br>Some of these wineries have direct sales on the website. <br><br>Two of the wines that had amazing nose, and palate and a great finish at an amazing price were these two. We all agreed these were amazing wines, with lots of value. Certainly value in Rhone is a big thing especially when you leave the small (lower production) zones like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermitage_AOC">Hermitage AOC </a>or  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teauneuf-du-Pape_AOC">Chateaunuef-du-Pape AOC</a>. </p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="150" height="200" class="wp-image-398" style="width: 150px;" src="https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Cairanne.jpg?resize=150%2C200&#038;ssl=1" alt="Cairanne" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Cairanne-1875x2500.jpg?resize=1875%2C2500&amp;ssl=1 1875w, https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Cairanne-1875x2500.jpg?resize=225%2C300&amp;ssl=1 225w, https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Cairanne-1875x2500.jpg?resize=768%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Cairanne-1875x2500.jpg?resize=1152%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1152w, https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Cairanne-1875x2500.jpg?resize=1536%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 1536w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px" /><br><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="150" height="113" class="wp-image-399" style="width: 150px;" src="https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Chartreux.jpg?resize=150%2C113&#038;ssl=1" alt="Chartreux" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Chartreux-2500x1875.jpg?resize=2500%2C1875&amp;ssl=1 2500w, https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Chartreux-2500x1875.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Chartreux-2500x1875.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Chartreux-2500x1875.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Chartreux-2500x1875.jpg?resize=1536%2C1152&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Chartreux-2500x1875.jpg?resize=2048%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 2048w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px" /><br><br>What Rhone AOC impressed me the most that I really have not gone deep on yet?   I think for very distinct and delicious (and Syrah sultry) red wine from the Southern Rhone, I would have to say. <br><br>Let us go into the hills of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacqueyras_AOC">Vacqueyras</a> and see what we can find there. <br> <br>I have to put Vacqueyras on my bucket list.</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In our (Sierra Foothills) area,  and across most of California, Roussanne and Marsanne are blended together. In fact the wineries I am going to list, almost always are blending the two varietals. However you can find Roussanne alone, like from Bill Easton, who states that the Roussanne he grows in Placer County, California is some of the hardest grapes for his team to harvest uniformly, and the grape is difficult to grow in general. He also states this is some of the most complex and age worthy (white) wine available at his estate. These comments were taken from his Roussanne winemaker notes on the <a href="https://www.terrerougewines.com/">Terre Rouge</a> website.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"> Roussanne is medium (to low) acid, with quite a few citrus notes, and many other intriguing notes as well. Intriguing might include some tangerine or tropical hints if the wine was picked younger. Generally, Roussanne is made into a larger, more oak infused wine here in the USA. Marsanne is complex perhaps waxy or oily on the palate, that full mouth feel, and rich with flavors of beeswax/honey, pineapple, pear and melon, some peach and perhaps smoke. The almond notes turn to caramel with age. It is a light in sugar, which yields less alcohol in the bottle, making Marsanne a great blending grape.<br><br>Below is how the clusters look, I pulled these images from Tablas Creek so they are American grown grapes. The cluster photos that I saw posted that were grown in France had slightly  darker (reddish) hues for the Marsanne berries.  <br><br>Why has Marsanne become increasingly popular in France? This stems partly from comments made by Bill Easton in his tasting notes about his Roussanne, it may be a difficult grape to work with (for some) during cultivation. I saw this posted several times, not just by Terre Rouge, but have heard other comments saying it is not too difficult in some areas.  The varietal can suffer from oidium (a fungus), or wind damage and other problems, and once harvested the grape tends to oxidize quickly. <br><br><strong>Roussanne</strong><br><img data-recalc-dims="1" height="1067" width="800" decoding="async" class="wp-image-276" style="width: 150px;" src="https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Roussanne.jpg?resize=800%2C1067&#038;ssl=1" alt="roussanne"><br><br><strong>Marsanne</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><img data-recalc-dims="1" height="1195" width="800" decoding="async" class="wp-image-277" style="width: 150px;" src="https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Marsanne.jpg?resize=800%2C1195&#038;ssl=1" alt=""><br><br>So where is the Marsanne? Well I found some for you. I got help from Chuck Mansfield of Goldbud Farms, a top vineyard manager here in El Dorado County. Two of his vineyards are producing Marsanne, one is Camino Alto, the other,  one of my favorites, a vineyard called Fenaughty.  The only winery producing just a Marsanne is <a href="https://www.casquewines.com/">Le Casque Wines</a> out of Loomis, California. This is the closest pure Marsanne to my house, and I made quick time getting there. Yes you can definitely go to Tablas Creek down in Paso Robles and get Marsanne varietal bottles as well, but it is harder up here in Northern California.  <br><br>Marsanne simply isn&#8217;t planted very broadly, a wine report of 2019 shows about 100-200 acres exist in all of California. That&#8217;s not a lot of wine. That compares to hundreds more acres in Australia, and thousands of acres in France, where it is most loved.<br><br>It was stated in some research I did that both Roussanne and Marsanne really took off first down around <a href="https://www.verdadandlindquistfamilywines.com/about-us">Santa Barbara County</a>, from Rhone lifetime achievement award winner Bob Lindquist. Bob has a never ending love for Marsanne, and if you live down there give them a visit. The Rhone focused areas of the southern part of California, probably have more than we do up here in the northern regions, still today, thanks to Bob&#8217;s influence. It can take decades for a wine varietal to take hold, and certainly a champion winemaker and winery is needed. In 2010, Tablas Creek posted a <a href="https://tablascreek.typepad.com/tablas/2010/08/grapes-of-the-rhone-valley-marsanne.html">blog</a> about the improving Marsanne and how they were going to go bigger with it, and they delivered since that post, so things are improving for both Roussanne and Marsanne.<br><br>So my advice is try these wineries, for Northern California Roussanne with Marsanne.<br><br>&#8211; <a href="https://www.donkeyandgoat.com/collection/white">Donkey and Goat </a>(Fenaughty Vineyard Marsanne + Roussanne)<br><br>&#8211; <a href="https://www.casquewines.com/product-category?productcategoryid=6C594A03-175B-4EB5-8B19-560A5A6B548D">Le Casque Wines</a> (Camino Alto Vineyard Marsanne)<br><br>&#8211; <a href="https://davidgirardvineyards.com/collections/all">David Girard Winery</a> (blended estate Roussanne and Marsanne)<br><br>&#8211; <a href="https://skinnervineyards.com/shop-wine/white/">Skinner Winery</a> (blended estate Roussanne and Marsanne)</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8211;<a href="https://www.starfieldvineyards.com/">Starfield Vineyards</a> (Estate Marsanne)<br><br><br>But what about all that Marsanne in France?  This blog got me on a kick to just try Marsanne from France since there are some incredible ones from there. <br><br>An exquisite choice is M. Chapoutier Les Granits Blanc (100% St Joseph Marsanne). I wanted to try some of the very best.  Marsanne is most popular in Northern Rhone, and the esteemed St. Joseph AVA and this winemaker are a top duo. Anything higher end from Chapoutier is going to be full of intensity, balance and complex (aromas and flavanoids) for your palate. For certain, I can recommend this first class winery from the Rhone area of France. I tasted there and it was the wine highlight of my trip to southern France in 2022<br><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="400" height="400" class="wp-image-279" style="width: 400px;" src="https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/les-granits-blanc.jpg?resize=400%2C400&#038;ssl=1" alt="les-granits-blanc" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/les-granits-blanc-1000x1000.jpg?resize=1000%2C1000&amp;ssl=1 1000w, https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/les-granits-blanc-1000x1000.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/les-granits-blanc-1000x1000.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/frankober.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/les-granits-blanc-1000x1000.jpg?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px" /></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">An alternate Marsanne from Chapoutier that is perhaps more easily found is <a href="https://www.chapoutier.com/en/shop/chante-alouette/2017/37">Chante Alouette</a>, and it is also a great choice for amazing French Marsanne, it is less fruity than the Les Granits Blanc, and highly complex.</p>
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